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I couldn’t find it by searching, I couldn’t find it in the FAQ either.
The problem is this: when disassembling the interior, all the seat belts were removed, they peacefully retracted into their reels almost completely and were placed on a shelf to await their time. During assembly, it turned out that they absolutely do not want to get out of these coils
Question: how is this treated? And the idea of driving without them doesn’t impress me at all.
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Long Face I encountered this myself in the summer. I had to completely disassemble the mechanism of one belt in order to fit into the structure. I collected it for about two hours.
Now, based on the design, I will describe a way to solve the problem: you take the reel with the wound belt with one hand and orient it approximately in the same position as it is on the car, with the other hand you hold the belt itself. Gradually changing the position of the coil in space, lightly pull the belt. After 3-5 minutes you will find a position in which the reel will “unlock” and the belt will come out.
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Reg.: 02/17/2005 Threads / Messages: 2 / 235 From: SPb Age: 47 Car: 21213, 1999 + 21310, 2011
It could be simpler. We take the coil and apply it to the place where it should be in the car. The belt will come out. If you didn’t get out, it means you weren’t from this place. Let's try it on the other side. This is especially true with the rear ones - I didn’t remove the front ones, I don’t know if there is a left-right difference there.
Having determined which belt is from where, we put them in their places and calmly pull out the belts.
Those. The idea is simple - it is known that when the belt is in its normal place, it is pulled out without question. So we are looking for a place where he behaves like this.
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Reg.: 02/17/2005 Messages: 52 From: Fryazino Age: 40 Car: VAZ-21213, born in 2000
Thanks everyone, I'll try it.
fanngorn I also started to disassemble, but the difficulty of disassembling showed with all my might that it would be worse in the opposite direction
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In general, this situation probably doesn’t happen very often. But, sometimes it does. When you pull, you pull the seat belt, but it somehow reluctantly comes out of the coils, or it even gets stuck and doesn’t want to come out.
Some, faced with such a situation, do it simpler: they drive without seat belts at all (without fastening) or jam the reels so that the belts do not need to be pulled out of the reels. However, even then. and other things are prohibited by traffic rules.
The repair is actually quite simple and quick.
Of course, the design of the mechanisms (reels) that issue seat belts is quite different, depending on the car. Here we will look at how to repair the belt feed mechanism of their reels using the example of the rear seat belt mechanisms of a NIVA car (VAZ-2121, VAZ-21213, etc.).
What does a jammed belt mean?
If the seat belt does not pull out of the installation socket, it is most likely jammed. To understand what this means, you first need to understand how it works. When the belt does not extend, this indicates a failure of the locking mechanism or that the belts were jammed as a result of an accident. But first, let's look at the principle of operation.
Vehicle seat belt
Inside the blocking device there is a sensitive element responsible directly for blocking, which is made in the form of a ball. This ball, moving through a system of levers, clings to the body of the coil gear. If the belt is retracted too quickly, the spool disc puts more force on the screw surface, thus blocking the ball.
If the lock is jammed and cannot be turned off, this means that over time the security mechanism has begun to function incorrectly.
In such cases, the strap does not retract and cannot be turned off in any way. In such cases, even an attempt to slowly latch the element may not help - it simply jams and no longer retracts, does not work.
Operating rules
The procedure for proper operation of the protective accessory in question is regulated by the following rules:
- The shoulder part of the tape must go over the chest and shoulder; it is forbidden to thread it through other parts of the body, even if it causes inconvenience.
- When the seat back is positioned vertically, maximum protection is achieved when using a seat belt. Leaning the seat back increases the risk of a person slipping under the belt. Under these circumstances, a head-on collision will result in the passenger striking the instrument panel.
- One seat belt is designed for one passenger; two people are not allowed to wear it together.
- It is forbidden to drive with a child in your arms with a seat belt fastened. In this case, the accessory not only does not protect the adult passenger, but can also cause injury to the child in the event of an accident. The child must have a separate seat belt or child seat.
- It is prohibited to add or change the design of the device in question in order to weaken the tension or block the tightening of the belt.
- Make sure that the tape fits against your body and does not twist.
- If the child's height allows him to be fastened correctly, the use of a belt is mandatory. If the child is too small, a child car seat should be used.
- The waist part of the tape should be adjacent to the area above the hips.
- Adjust the mechanism to ensure a snug fit of the tape to your body.
A seat belt malfunction may be caused by the following reasons:
- blocking as a result of an accident occurs due to the activation of the mechanism’s squibs;
- the seat belt buckle is damaged due to a breakdown of its main mechanism;
- the roller mechanism is subject to wear;
- influence of negative temperatures;
- wear of the locking system or one of its elements.
Repair process
Now that we have dealt with the signals and reasons for blocking a fastened and unfastened seat belt, let’s move on to the repair process. Cleaning seat belts is one of the main tasks in this process, so we will consider this procedure separately. So, what should you do if you receive a signal that the lock is jammed? How can I clean it or turn it off? You will learn more about this below.
Tools
To disable the lock if a corresponding signal appears, the entire mechanism will need to be cleaned. To do this, you need to thoroughly prepare in advance and collect all the necessary tools. so what to prepare:
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Diagnostic methods
Let's look at the procedure and methods for checking the condition of seat belts. For example, let's look at how to carry out diagnostics on a Ford Focus car.
Insufficient belt retraction
If the belt does not retract well, check how the decorative covers are installed to make sure they are not touching the belt tape. Also check to see if the belt is rubbing against the retractor. If this is the case, then loosen the fastening bolt and align the device so that the tape is in the middle.
Most cars have 2 front and 3 rear retractable seat belts. They are equipped with double protection by sensitive elements.
- Vehicle motion sensor – blocks the belt during braking, sharp turns, descents, and ascents.
- Belt movement sensor – blocks it when pulled sharply.
These systems must function properly. To check them, special control methods are used.
How to check a car motion sensor
There are two ways to test this sensor.
Causes of the problem
There are several main reasons why a seat belt does not extend. First of all, it should be noted the banal wear and tear of the system. Moreover, this may only apply to one of its elements; for example, seat belt pretensioners or a locking device may fail due to wear. The roller mechanism may also wear out.
Adverse weather conditions also provoke such malfunctions. may cause this phenomenon.
Sometimes seat belt pretensioners fail after an accident. This may cause the coil lock or the entire main mechanism to break. After an accident, in many vehicles the belt may not retract back into its intended location at all. This is due to the activation of the system's squibs.
If the car is involved in an accident, even with smooth pulling, the mechanism may jam. Then you will have to look for the cause of the breakdown and eliminate it.
Installation of seat belts.
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Look under the back seat. If there are any on the racks, then they should be there even more so. |
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General arrangement of belts on the left side
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General arrangement of belts on the left side |
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QUOTE (vvserg @ Jan 29 2007, 14:35) |
On the right in the photo, the end of the belt runs along the arch of the wing, does that mean it is attached somewhere on the arch? |
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QUOTE (vvserg @ Jan 29 2007, 15:06) |
the inertial block is simply screwed to the shelf, and where is the safety, it will vomit in the event of a serious impact, another small question is where the other end of the belt is screwed, sorry for the trouble. |
The inertial block is not just screwed to the shelf, there is some kind of reinforced plate under the shelf, but this fastening is located closer to the side arch.
The second end of the inertial coil is attached as in photo 4
The latch (third point) is attached under the seat in photo 1.2 (right strap), the left strap is for the middle passenger (two-point belt)
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How to repair
After finding out the reasons for the malfunction of the seat belt reel, we will figure out how to repair it and what is needed for this. In this procedure, the main thing is to thoroughly clean the belts.
Required Tools
To resolve a malfunction of the seat belt buckle, the device will need to be cleaned. This will require certain tools and accessories.
- Short shaped screwdriver.
- A 17 mm wrench is better than a socket type.
- Flathead screwdriver.
- Clothes pin for office work.
- A syringe with a thin tube.
- Gasoline for lighters.
- A piece of polyethylene to protect the seats from dirt.
- A piece of steel wire.
Effect of frost
Sometimes the seat belt latch may not work due to extreme cold. This will not require changing any parts. In some older vehicles, the insulation of the mechanism may not be sufficient. This causes the belt to jam.
In this case, the oil that lubricates the system becomes thicker in the cold. You will have to disassemble the coil and lubricate its elements with a special substance. It must be frost resistant. This, for example, could be silicone grease or lithol.
In some cases, the situation can be corrected by bending the metal “claw” of the ball mechanism at a smaller angle. When the coil is positioned vertically, the retainer should not come into contact with the gear teeth. This should only happen when the bobbin is tilted.